yorkie
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Post by yorkie on Nov 5, 2010 10:37:33 GMT
Happy Diwali everyone...best wishes to one and all
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Gurtej
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Post by Gurtej on Nov 5, 2010 17:53:25 GMT
Happy Diwali to u 2 and every1 on this site, hope u all have a good one!! And celebrate!!
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Post by veer on Nov 6, 2010 10:33:07 GMT
Happy Diwali Everyone!
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Post by awesomesikh on Nov 6, 2010 19:05:53 GMT
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noname
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Post by noname on Nov 16, 2010 21:46:28 GMT
sikhs do not celebrate diwali- on the same day as diwali sikhs celebrate "bandi Chor Divas" diwali is a hindu festival of lights and the hindu new year, the sikh new year is in april known as visakhi since sikhs are a minority of hindu dominated india, sikhs join in both celebrations. Bandi Chor marks the ocassion when 6 th guru was released from improsonment and also released 52 hindu kings. do not get this twisted- sikhs are not hindus. on this day every gianni and kirtani in every gurdwara will stress this point and state the relavance of bandi chor divas. its ashame the sikh youth rely on their parents for interprations, when quite clearly the gurdwara is objectivley making this point to the mass congregation. see links below for more info.- sikhs respect all religions -- www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Gurdwara_Data_Bandi_Chor_Sahib en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandi_Chhor_Divas
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Post by veer on Nov 16, 2010 22:13:14 GMT
I think no one here thinks Sikhs are Hindus and no Sikh youth think they`re Hindus. Even non Sikhs knows that Sikhism is a separate religion. As long as Sikhs wear the Turban it is obvious that Sikhs are an independent religion even for those who know nothing about it.
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noname
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Post by noname on Nov 19, 2010 22:35:43 GMT
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Post by awesomesikh on Nov 19, 2010 23:15:54 GMT
This is the reason Organizations like the United Sikh's are working to bring awareness about the Sikh turban and the Sikh identity on the whole. www.unitedsikhs.org/rtt/If there are problems there are solutions to them too. This was a Bandi Chorr Diwas/Diwali post would have been a nice idea if it was kept upto that.
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Post by jaylondon on Nov 20, 2010 12:48:59 GMT
sikhs do not celebrate diwali- on the same day as diwali sikhs celebrate "bandi Chor Divas" diwali is a hindu festival of lights and the hindu new year, the sikh new year is in april known as visakhi since sikhs are a minority of hindu dominated india, sikhs join in both celebrations. Dear Noname, Diwali and Vaisakhi have been marked by Sikhs since the beginnings of the Sikh faith and since the time of Guru Nanak. The idea was that Sikhs around the sub-continent would know when Vaisakhi and Diwali were taking place, and the Guru of the day would use those days to call the faithful to gather before him in order to disseminate various new teachings and developments within Sikhism. The use of Diwali and Vaisakhi was for convenience sake, and the Gurus would use those festivals for the benefit of Sikhs. In fact, the Sikh community has continued to use those two dates to the present day for the same reason. The importance of Bandi Chhor Divas within Sikhism is merely there to give Sikhs a reason to celebrate Diwali. Why is the release of 52 princes far more important than the sacrifice of Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji or Guru Arjun Dev Ji? Why is the 6th Guru's return to Amritsar given far more prominance than the day when the 6th Guru introduced the concept of Miri and Piri, which is now integral to Sikhism? Those are the questions that one should consider when evaluating the significance of Diwali to Sikhs. Sikhs do celebrate Diwali, but for different reasons to Hindus. Diwali and Vaisakhi continue to be the two days each year that almost all practicing Sikhs visit the gurdwara, even if they fail to do so for the rest of the year. This is merely a continuation of the time during the living Gurus' lives when it was convenient to use those days of the year as they were important secular festivals in Northern India. That also explains why Jains celebrate Diwali. I hope that clarifies the historical context of Diwali to Sikhs.
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Post by quantumdesi on Dec 9, 2010 3:14:50 GMT
You're right that Bandi Chor Divas and Diwali coincide, and that Sikhs have participated in Diwali celebrations since the days of the first Guru, but lets be clear that to 'celebrate' Diwali in the sense of lighting candles, setting of fireworks, or *cringe* doing some sort of pooja thing, is the same as Sikhs celebrating Christmas. I think what noname was trying to say was that there is no inherent religious significance of Diwali to Sikhs, just as there is no such significance in celebrating Christmas or Easter. Lets also remember that as well as 52 princes, Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji was also released that day, which makes it a tad more significant than suggested in your post! No reason for prompting people to go to the Gurdwara is a bad reason. Who knows why Bandi Chor Divas was enshrined as a 'significant' date, or all. Marking it doesn't lessen the importance of other gurpurbs or events. There is something to be said for it coinciding with what is essentially a pan-Indian holiday. FYI, the gurpurb marking the martyrdom of the 2 chotay sahibzade is on Boxing Day, and usually falls around the Christmas period. This is slowly turning into a more 'significant' event, due to it falling over the holiday period. Maybe this is an example of Sikhi evolving to envelope current holiday periods... ...we are, after all, the smartest of the major religions ....oh - and sorry for the delayed response
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Post by sahaiakal on Jun 28, 2011 21:40:33 GMT
actual diwali is not all about decorating home and burning patakey ...the major part of the celebration is actually the traditional ritualistic puja of goddess laxmi the good of comfort and happiness. what sikhs do ont his day is just decorate the house as everybody else and would burst patakas and distribute dry frutis and gifts to the friends and neighbors. they do not do puja ans stuff rather they go to gurdwara to light the candels. its just a psychological thingh which applies here according the principle of what we call "social influence" in psychology.
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Post by sahaiakal on Jun 28, 2011 21:42:11 GMT
i thank unknown to highlight the difference between "bandi chhor dihara" and "diwali" which is of improtant significance towards the sikh community.
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